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Should NC have level/statistic hard-caps? [34 vote(s)]

Yes
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No
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Hard Caps?


I am thinking of adding hard-caps later in the versions... Recently there have been some players that have reached the "no-man's" stats that was never seen before in NC History.

As of that, the idea of "clan" speciality has been over-come by many users. Example: Hakus having high tais than some actualy Tai clans like Lee.

So here is the idea, each clan will have a hard cap depending on their starting statistics and once they reach that, they will no longer be able to increase that stats. So eventually people will reach it, and "complete" the training.
The hard-cap won't be high enough so that ppl will have fun "training" for a long time lol

Statistics hard cap means level cap too, so any inputs on this?

Perhaps the level cap can be lvl 500? and ill increase it if there are too many players at lvl 500 later on.
If people agree with this idea, ill add this system for v.4.

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Sannin (Lvl 2)

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the caps are hard enough as it is only being 40k for most players



dont make it harder

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Jounin (Lvl 1)

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Crappy idea (in my opinion), don't do it :p

-- Edited by ShadowDragon at 22:45, 2007-02-09

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Sannin (Lvl 3)

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i agree that a nin clan shouldnt be able to have tai as high as another clan because the tai clans are just based on the tai attacks and its stupid if nin clans hit more with a tai attack than the tai clans. the level cap probably isnt needed, all level gets is defense and a little stats (not much) and at that high of a level it goes up slow.

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Legendary Kage

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woops i ment to put no

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Errrr no thanks Stego, I like it the way it is.

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Chuunin (Lvl 1)

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Missing nin and akat shouldn't have caps, and genin cap should be more like 7K. Also i don't like this hard cap idea.  

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Sannin (Lvl 2)

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Then more people will go for missing/akatsuki, having no caps for akat/missing is stupid. Cos a jounin like kakashi can own zabuza easily. whereas Itachi had trouble fighting Sakura and Naruto and kakashi with his slave person.

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Sannin (Lvl 3)

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akat is just stupid it deserves no caps ^_^

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Sannin (Lvl 2)

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same for leaf then -.-

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Jounin (Lvl 3)

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So? Maybe the tai clans need to **** up and train. I was a Gaara with 29k tai, 110k stam, 45k chakra, and 14k nin. It's not like people can't have balanced stats..look at Kakashi..

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Sannin (Lvl 3)

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Makaveli wrote:

So? Maybe the tai clans need to **** up and train. I was a Gaara with 29k tai, 110k stam, 45k chakra, and 14k nin. It's not like people can't have balanced stats..look at Kakashi..



people who dont train tai as much as others deserve to have lower tai whether they are a tai clan or not...i agree now


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Some of u are misunderstanding the concept here. The caps that we have in the game only slows you down at certain lvl (known as soft caps) but the game doesnt have hard caps to limit u at a cetain stats.

Eventually everyone will have infinite stats and the game will require a pwipe. To prevent this, i came up with an idea so that each clan's specialities and emphasized and keeps everyone at a certain lvl so there isnt huge gaps between newbies and old players.

I personally think its a good way to keep the game pwipe-free for years to come... but if u guys dont want it i guess ill leave it for later days when the problem pops up and ppl come asking me for a pwipe or whining they can't catch up to those that have been playing the game for months before they have.

Edit: Many of the games in byond do pwipes because of bugs or bad coding but NC doesnt have that problem. Games like NC in Byond do pwipes because the gap between old players and new gets too big such that it is no longer fun for either groups of people.
The reason published world-wide games like Runescape and WoW doesnt have pwipes is because they have hard-caps.

-- Edited by Stego at 15:25, 2007-02-10

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Sannin (Lvl 3)

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well if its going to stop a p-whipe then why not



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Kazuma is already like level 600, how would you set the 500 cap with him that high?

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Jounin (Lvl 3)

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People whine about Moleboy but no change yet. =\ On topic, I understand that, but every game needs to pwipe because of people being so strong. I DO think that tai clans should probably get a greater increase though. Not too much where a nin clan couldn't catch up. I mean Kakashi is an all around character and I don't mean they are average, he excels in everything. Just like Itachi. But think about it..if you put hard caps on tai then think of how many people will go for homings...

Eh, until Moleboy is gone do what you want >>

-- Edited by Makaveli at 20:18, 2007-02-10

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Jounin (Lvl 1)

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Before i stopped training i was only 500 overall behind kazuma and he started way before me and had 3200 already, if people knew how to train it wouldnt be that hard to catch up to the strongest people

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Jounin (Lvl 3)

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Also true. It's like I said, if they would quit crying about getting plvled they would be strong so quick. The thing about my Gaara is that I started with it in January. I can beat most of the people in Akatsuki one on one and they have played for about 3-4 months before me.

The only reason why Kazuma isn't so strong for the time he has been playing is because he spends most of his time spawn killing and plvling people for money.

And also, I'm not sure if you noticed this or not but plenty of bugs are showing up. So this comment is no longer in effect:"Edit: Many of the games in byond do pwipes because of bugs or bad coding but NC doesnt have that problem."

-- Edited by Makaveli at 20:42, 2007-02-10

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Sannin (Lvl 1)

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Hard caps dont sound like a bad idea, but do they should be clan specific so we dont wind up with an Inuzuka with 60k nin.

Also it would be nice so the people the new players and slow trainers would have a chance to excel in the game.(Eventually anyway its not like the training would get easier I hope)

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Chuunin (Lvl 1)

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Yeah really. The main reason they can't catch up with us is because they powerlevel or spend 90% of their time asking to be powerleveled. The way I see it, it's their faults. They just lack the determination to catch up and want everything done for them. The caps that are here now should be increased a little then have another set of caps later on that slow down training slightly more than the first set of caps. As for the leveling problem, monsters could give less experience points and it could require more points to level up or maybe after you reach a certain level you have to pay yen to level up or something.

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Jounin (Lvl 1)

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Actually, now that I've thought about it I kinda change my mind. But i think it would be a good idea. Only part of it thought. This is what i think should be added.


  • There should be a level cap, and every once in a while you raise the cap so we can get higher.

  • A stat cap for each stat based on their clan. BUT it should not be lower than other clans, just have the clans that the stat is question's specialty stat be higher. This is hard to explain, but I hope you understand.
    

Sick and had to take medicine forgot what else to say, I'll edit later



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I would love a pwipe, because of all the bugs and stat problems we've been having a fresh start would be nice.

Most players will fight against it but with a big update like this... new clans... new villages, new jutsus.. i think it would be the best.


-This is just a personal opionion, no freaking out

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Jounin (Lvl 1)

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Moleboy and myself were gonna talk to stego, because of all the bugs we have fixed, and those we havent, that have both harmed players and made them stronger. ALSO there are so many afk trainers and they get ... a boot! Oh my! now i have to log back in! And as most of you know I'm one of the highest trained chars, so don't think I'm talking about i want to catch up with the strong guys

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and it saves when you get booted too so how does it help?

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It does save when you get booted, the game crashed while i was in CS2 training and for some weird reason i had the same stats from when it crashed.

The new afk system isn't exacly the best because it also screws players who arn't afk up, maybe the system could be changed so it sends you a personal message in chat that you have to copy instead of a popup


-- Edited by Kyuubi at 21:44, 2007-02-14

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Legendary Kage

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chat would be bad unless its huge because if they are nin training spamming kage bunshins they wont be able to see it with the this cannoot be done text coming up inbetween bushins

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ANBU Grunt

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Then it could be huge, theres downsides to both but popup verifcation isn't exacly the best method. It kills you while dungeon training/sparring but with chat it also allows the player to continue afk training until there booted, popup would stop there macro and hold them til boot

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I prefer the Wots afk boot system better




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ANBU Grunt

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I tried to suggest somthing like that but of course somone had to say some stupid downside and everyone disagreed with it.


-- Edited by Kyuubi at 21:52, 2007-02-14

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Chuunin (Lvl 1)

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Shy isn't the word. If you actually listen to Wsay and all the stupid nonsense that goes on in there, half the time it's best not to talk. You should have to have a 100 or higher on an IQ test to play Byond or something. >.>

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