V4 Wipe

Sorairo · Genin (Lvl 2)

V4 Wipe

Kite1 · Legendary Kage

dude become "uber" and see how you feel and the third one is just... not smart people can amke new clans anytime they want when they want why would that have anything to do with a wipe

Sorairo · Genin (Lvl 2)

lol I have...ive done that alot of times.. too many times to count lol...i really dont see how there would not be a wipe since theres so many things being added

Moleboy · ANBU Grunt

also, WAY too many people are in sound...he should make a p-wipe, then make sound a bit harder...

Tasslehoff · ANBU Lieutenant

hell no ive failed sound 6 times and no pwipe.

Kite1 · Legendary Kage

to many people in sound because they get plved for 1-50 then stat train

Stego · ANBU Elite

The reason i am NOT having pwipe:

1) Everytime we do one, we lose 30% of the players.
2) Even though i am adding so much, i am such a good programmer

that ill code everything around v.3 and make it all flow normally.
3) I am considering adding 2 additional available character spots.

Ravyn · Genin (Lvl 2)

soras just mad he sint king :P

Suedomase · Jounin (Lvl 1)

There absolutly no good reason FOR a pwipeOo

if A lot of the high level people will be wanting to try new clans anyways, in which case theyd need to make new chars regardless. Theres no coded advantages/ disadvantages to haveing a pre or post pwipe char.

As for sound, the 1 in 10 chance to get into sound is fine, lots of poeple got lucky, good for them.

Sorairo · Genin (Lvl 2)

Lies Ravyn XD...Nah but really it does seem like a good idea..jus too many ppl are lazy to create a new char lol

LordZeff · Chuunin (Lvl 3)

Sorairo wrote:

I think there should be a wipe for v4... Reasons 1) There are alrdy too many uber ppl makin new clans useless (Seto's reason) 2) Most of the new features will alrdy be given to the stronger ppl 3) Alot of ppl will create new chars to try the new clans Just a few reasons why...

There should be a pwipe >.> lose 30% of players... i have been through several pwipes in several high level character and you didnt hear me bitch about it on forums >.< and that was when it took weeks to get to it now it takes a week maybe less, or you could just make it plain and simple all those with characters that are 100+ going into version 4 cant get anything special i.e sannin rank and other things that only high level charcters can get. The validity for a Wipe is substiantiated due to the fact your adding in so much new ****. by not pwipeing and making it an equal ball game in a better nc you may lose more players and their rankings for your game than if you pwipe. It might have been a different arguement if you didnt speed up the server exp rate, but becuase you did its not hard to make a high level character and now it means those with high level characters have less skill and mostly they player(s) have no life. point is out of the few people that have many high lvl characters there are more that dont and would be advantageous to them (the majority) for there to be a pwipe. "fairness"

Ravyn · Genin (Lvl 2)

stego already decided no Pwipe so i guess this debate is over =/

Menzu Namiaru · Sannin (Lvl 1)

I agree with Zeff.
1). Is that actually the fun about the game is leveling from low levels thinking you can be kage, being the first chuunin out there. This is the fun factor, cause when you actually hit kage/chuunin you are bored. It shouldn't be considered a pwipe it should be a "Grand Opening" I am three high level characters(All above level 150 on my account) that I know will all be gone with pwipe, but do I care? No. This will just give me the chance to get 3 new characters/clans to try out.

2).People only say they hate pwipes till they get to a high level. I have done many annoucement(s) saying, "Do you want a pwpe for v.4?". About everyone above level 50 said yes, and all the high levels who just started playing as a new char. said yes. Ony new people think pwipes are bad... It's true...

3).It will be better for the game with pwipe. There is about 10-15 Akatsuki's and 25-50 Sound village! This is way to high of numbers for both of these. Also for all the high levels will uit and start new characters anyways(Same with low levels). And if evryone quits then it practilly is a pwipe.

4).If we don't have a pwipe over 75% of nc's population will make new characters. Thi population easily can be spawn killed and quit because they will think, 'Man, I will never be jounin, or sound, or kage when they are all 5 times my level. I quit...'. Now about all of the new people will quit because of that, and barely any of them will say this, "Man, I quit cause there is another pwipe...". Logicly it will be a better choice if you pwipe.

5).(Continuation)If we make v.4 it wil be a "Grand Opening". All these new players(newbs) will come running in! Then there dreams crushed to find that the game has a hokage already and players way higher above them. They will deffinatly quit cause they will never be the best NC(Naruto Chronology) player.

6).In a pwipe("Grand Opening") It is fun, cause it is a race. More people find it funner when they first find out, 'Wow, i'm in the top 30!'. They will play for longer and tell more people to come play. Then once everyone joins sound, Akatsuki and there is all of the kages. The race is over, less people play, and there is no point in playing anymore. Actually I noticed when you first put up 3.8, there was 41 people on, in all my time playing NC I have never seen over 35 people on at once. When you first put up v.4 I bet you there will be over 50 players on nc, and we will probably be in the top 5.

I think this may change your mind. I also was wanting to know this...

Who thinks we should have a pwipe?
"Yes" or "No"?
My answer is: Yes (As you can tell)

ShiningEarthFist · Genin (Lvl 3)

Noz >.> I put to much blood and sweat into my Haku to start again! And im not exactly a new player.

nelson · Jounin (Lvl 2)

earthfist i dont think ive ever seen you on nc?

Taronako Kun · ANBU Grunt

Sora and I are vets when it comes to lvling on NC <.< Before stego made it easy to lvl up Sora and I would get to the high levels with pure work. Just wanted to state that... Oh... but I don't know... it just seems kinda redundant NOT to have a pwipe... you got all these high lvl players... I don't know.. in my opinion I love pwipes every once in a while. But oh well

nelson · Jounin (Lvl 2)

ya but there are alot of noobs(not noob as weak noob as kinda new to the game) rite now and they are not that into it yet into it and if there was a p-wipe they will be like "f this game i dont wana start over i will go find a better game" and then nc loses alot of players

-- Edited by nelson at 22:56, 2006-11-27

Ravyn · Genin (Lvl 2)

Taro max told me you boosted yourself and sora on your server with yen and stats O_o there is no pwipe god sitting here ******* for one isnt gonna make it happen >_>

nelson · Jounin (Lvl 2)

ya wat burn (i shouldnt have had the redbull

lazeyboy117 · Jounin (Lvl 1)

i belive there r good and bad things boot a pwipe in favor of it more ppl will join and the race part is fun but bad beacuse alot of new ppl already playin will quit but i belive it will be a good thing

nelson · Jounin (Lvl 2)

ya i mite quit if there is a p-wipe and go play wow but it dosnt matter kuz stego said there wouldnt be one

Suedomase · Jounin (Lvl 1)

There absolutly no good reason for a pwipe, everythign mentioned is basicly noobs whineing that they suck and other people don't.

Bottem line, strego said there wont be one, theres no good reason for there to be one, thus theres no way there will be one, so dont even bother with retarded topics like this -_-;

Sorairo · Genin (Lvl 2)

Suedo ur blind if u cant read thoes reasons.. ur jus being a kiss ass like in NF with von
i see now y niisan hated u soo much
and Rav WAT THE **** does max kno? that dude is the biggest bitch of nc
and he didnt even play nc wen taro's server was up.... and also u out of all people should kno how i train .. so dude stfu

Kite1 · Legendary Kage

like mezu said i personally love the thrill of a p-wipe with a bunch of other to compete with and when you get higher than all others the fun is out of it

Menzu Namiaru · Sannin (Lvl 1)

Suedomase wrote:

There absolutly no good reason for a pwipe, everythign mentioned is basicly noobs whineing that they suck and other people don't.

Bottem line, strego said there wont be one, theres no good reason for there to be one, thus theres no way there will be one, so dont even bother with retarded topics like this -_-;

I don't want to get pissed, so i'm gonna leave make this bluntly... Read my message, it explains the exact oposite than you. I have THREE characters at over level 150 and you call me a noob. All the noobs are the ones that whine about pwipe all the vets are the ones that love pwipes...

Suedomase · Jounin (Lvl 1)

Heres the deal, you can bitch at me all you want, but the fact that there is still no GOOD reason to have a pwipe is true.

(all content reffers to menzu's post)

The people who your so called info that youve gotten from you annoucements, aside from the fact that is likely exadurated and for that matter just plain bs, is clearly an unreliable sample done at one point by one person.

As for 'too many sound nins and akasukis' Too bad. People got lucky and got into sound, good for them, that doesnt mean there needs to be a pwipe. As for akasuki, nothing will prevent loads of people rejoining akasuki unless a new system is put in place, and from what i can tell ,strego useualy has iniventive methods for makeing sure pwipes arnt needed, and honestly one for somthing like that wouldnt be very difficult.

As for you number four. Your right, probly about 75% if not more of the old players will be makeing new chars as well as new players doing the same. Does that mean they want to pointlessly lose there old chars? of course it doesnt! As for spawnkilling, the solution for that is the same thing it is right now, if gms crack down on it, then the problem will greatly diminish. Actualy for that matter, thats the solution for a lot of problems, gms should be forced to crack down on some of these issues, especialy things like predutice commments (which i noticed some have started to, but not to a point where peopel seem to care), spawnkilling, spamming, bug abuse (big one of late), and other similar things.

Now for #5. Starting into a game with people above you level? WELCOME TO MMORPGS. I honestly dont even know where to being with the retardation involved with that.... Heres the deal, it took me about a week of playing to make a char and become a kage, and there were plenty of peopel stronger then me. If people want somthign they can work hard for it, people who have already worked hard shouldnt be punished so noobs can have 2 minuites of being able to say 'were all the same level' just so they can start to complain again after... Actualy lets do pwipe just for this purpose, but hey, since its an issue now, itll be an issue whenever somone hits level 300 again... and that can happenen in as little as what? 2 weeks? so by you theory, why dont we just cut the bs and pwipe ever 2 weeks for the remander of this game... oh, that sounds stuipd? now you know what i felt reading you garbage.

As for number 6..... Where in the hell do you get your information? The NC rank has been doing nothing but maintaining a constant move upwards, as for population, theres like 40+ people on almost ever damn day. So come back when youve actualy got information you havnt pulled out of the deep dark reaches of your ass.

Well That concludes the more detailed explaination as to why i said the original comments that i did about this. I was planning to avoid any specific embarrasments by keeping things short but i guess thats simply not acceptable, so i gave the full detailed explination.

PS: You have 3 level 150 chars? the work to make a few weak 150 char is nothign compared to that of many of the players here, so guess what, you dont get to magicly act like your some oldbie pro whos got one of the top chars, because you don't.

Suedomase · Jounin (Lvl 1)

Secondly to kite, I can understand the desier to make a new character, i plan to make one or 2 myself, however, i dont see any point in wipeing everyones old chars and forceing people who either dont wish to lose a character they have for they know they will still like them even afterwards,or people who just simply arnt intrested in any of the new clans, or for any newbs who mabey just got chuunin and are finaly exited about there char, to have it ripped away for absolutly no good reason.

So basicly... If you want to start a new character, by all means do, lots of others will be right there with you, but thats no reason to have a pwipe.

Taronako Kun · ANBU Grunt

Ah, Max can talk all he wants O.o Hes angry that I'm better then he is. But nope, neer did it, *shrugs* Even on moles server Iwas able to take out lvl 300's at only lvl 100. Sora and I are just naturally good <.< Sorry to burst your small lil bubble Max.

LordZeff · Chuunin (Lvl 3)

that buble wa smade smaller by me and kal * scratchs head * heh sorry about that >.> and anyone that has a high level chaarcter that says theres no good reaosn for a pwipe are the whineing noobs >.<

Kite1 · Legendary Kage

Suedomase wrote:

Secondly to kite, I can understand the desier to make a new character, i plan to make one or 2 myself, however, i dont see any point in wipeing everyones old chars and forceing people who either dont wish to lose a character they have for they know they will still like them even afterwards,or people who just simply arnt intrested in any of the new clans, or for any newbs who mabey just got chuunin and are finaly exited about there char, to have it ripped away for absolutly no good reason.

So basicly... If you want to start a new character, by all means do, lots of others will be right there with you, but thats no reason to have a pwipe.

if the new people actually like it they would come back anyway